Buchannon Gardens

Blair, Mat, and I went up to Buchannon Gardens this weekend. We approached from Little Prairie instead of the pullout. This added about 20min to the approach, but made it easier for Anne and her bad ankle. It also avoided the slippery log crossing. We missed the main trail going up and crossed the creek much too low.

The 5.6 slab, looked deceptively easy as always. However, it never feels as easy as it looks. Consider it a good old sandbag for those used to wall climbing



Blair and Matt played around on a new short layback corner nearby. Later that day they went back and led it. A rock broke off and Blair took a short tumble.



Then we went over to East of Eden -the crescent crack- and played on that. No one led it. It is listed as a 5.10a, but may be a grade harder (dang waterton sandbag grading! :). Same with with the bolted variation. Both are exceptionally good climbs. However it takes a while to get used to the friction and rock up there. East of Eden takes some small to mid sized cams and a mid sized nut. There is a chain anchor up top.



After that we tried to lead up Viking Press. This is an exceptionally good slabby face route that is similar in character to many of the crimpy routes at Stonehill. The bottom pocket pulls were a bit hard with muddy shoes. This is probably the best quality route in the park. Other routes may have funner positions and exposure, but the technical climbing on Viking Press can't be beat. Someone just has to add a new route by figuring out how to head up the arete on the right.





Has anyone else been up there? I suspect there may only have been 3 or 4 parties up there over the last dozen years.

Anderson Peak

On June 18, 2005, Dave Stephens and I scrambled Newman Peak and Avion Ridge. On the way out I noticed the dominating North Face of Anderson Peak and I thought to myself, “I’d like to try and climb that”. I had no idea what kind of an obsession I was creating but it was one that would leave me frustrated, humbled and elated. I would dream about climbing this face…..but sometimes I would wake up dreaming about falling off of this face.
June 25 2006
Dave Stephens, Trevor McMillan and I scrambled up the East Ridge with the idea of climbing the East Ridge to the summit. We ended up climbing up the South Face to the summit ridge. At the top of the ridge I peered over to have a look at the North Face and it was impressive and it fanned the flame of my growing obsession.
June 23, 2007
Brett Wiesser and I decided to go explore the North Face. We climbed the East Ridge to tree line and dropped over to the climbers right to large coulior visible from the Red Rock Canyon parking lot. The couloir was filled with snow so we put on crampons and had a fun climb to the notch. We then scrambled up through the rock steps through some serious 4th class scrambling. We finally roped up for an easy 5.3 pitch to a bench. We moved over to the climbers left about 20 meters and climbed a 55 meter, 5.5 pitch to another ramp. Here we were confronted with a daunting face. After a long while as to where the route needed to go, we moved to the climbers left about 30 meters, drove in two knife blades at about knee height for a belay and prepared to climb. Either one of us got more than 5 meters. Humbled, we prepared to rappel. Four rappels got us down and we headed home.
July 21, 2007
Brett and I headed back for retribution. The couloir was dry so we had some fun scrambling up to where we roped up the first time. We climbed this 5.3 pitch, did the 5.5 pitch and arrived at our previous high point. We clipped into our pins that we had left last time, organized our gear and I headed up determined not to intimidated. The rock was fairly good, pro was quite good but it was sustained. I kept telling myself that it was only a 5.6. I climbed a little higher. Some of these holds were pretty thin. I came to a bulge that was pushing me out to get over it. I kept telling myself that it was only a 5.6. I kept going wondering where the heck I was going to get a belay. The crack finally kicked back a bit and led into a wide chimney. Finally at 58 meters there was a 6” ledge to stand on where I could set up a belay. As I was setting up an anchor I realized that I could sit under a small roof off to my right. I set a clove hitch into my anchor and slid over to my seat, drove a pin into the roof, clipped in and more or less breathed a sigh of relief. I belayed Brett up. We decided that was enough. We rappelled down to our belay station. This time we followed the ramp around to the east to see if there was an easier way to get off without all the rappelling. Sure enough, about 150 meters to the East, one short rappel to another ramp and another 60 meters got us to some easy scrambling.
September 10, 2007
I managed to talk a good friend of mine, Jim Everard, into coming down to Lethbridge and try climbing this amazing route I had found. We camped in Chris’s back yard in Waterton and got up early enough for a 6:20 am start. We climbed through all the stuff that Brett and I had climbed. When we got to the final pitch that Brett and I had done, Jim took over the lead. I think he was surprised at how sustained it was. Once I had arrived to the belay, we reorganized the gear and I took off for the next lead. This was about a 30 meter, 5.6 pitch. This brought us to a nice ledge and a prominent dihedral that is visible from the parking lot. It looks like one of the statues from Easter Island, so we named this rock “Easter Rock”. This was good quality limestone. Solid and steep. We walked around trying to figure out how we were going to get up. Around to the right was an off width crack that was slightly leaning out. I tried this several times until I had nothing left and got nowhere. We moved back around to the front and Jim decided to try another crack on the front of the face. He did a nice job in a very awkward crack. I was really unsure what to rate this pitch but we decided on 5.9, 30 meters. By the time we got this pitch in, we were both tired, worried about running out of daylight and worried if we were going to be able to get off o.k. We decided to bail. We drove in a couple of pins and rapped off to the bottom of Easter Rock, drove in two more pins and rapped off to the top of the 5.9 pitch. When we went to pull the ropes they got stuck. Fortunately we still had both ropes so Jim prussiked back up, freed them and we finished our rappels and headed home. I admit, as glad as I was to be back on solid ground I was still really frustrated. I would spend all winter dreaming about this route. Sometimes dreaming about falling off of this route.
August 02, 2008
Jim and I headed back for another try. This time we would bivy up on the ridge at tree line. That would save us a couple of hours in the morning and 2000’ of height gain.
We met at the Kilmorey in the pouring rain. Lousy forecast…..it was supposed to be 0% POP. We decided to post pone until the next day. The following afternoon things were looking up so we headed up the ridge. This time we decided we would scramble up the East Ridge as high as we could go and see if we could scramble around on goat trails to the start of our first 5.9 pitch. We crawled into our sleeping bags that nite under beautiful star filled skies. When we woke up the next morning the weather was definitely changing. We grabbed our climbing gear and headed up the ridge well aware of the building cloud and the upslope winds. When we had scrambled as high as we could we stopped to ponder the weather. We both decided that the weather was changing and a storm was blowing in. We dropped our gear and quickly followed the ramp around towards the North side to see if it would get us to the start of the first 5.9 pitch which we discovered that it did. Both very frustrated we headed back to our climbing gear and then back to the bivy site and then home. We got soaked on the way out and witnessed one hell of a lightning storm on Anderson. Was I ever glad that I wasn’t on that face right then. It looked like this route was going to have to wait another year. As it turned out, Jim phoned me a few days later to let me know that there was a chance that he could swing another trip out this way in a couple of weeks. There would be another chance.
August 17, 2008
I decided to take Dave Mulder with me to drop some gear ahead of time at our bivy site and maybe climb a pitch or two just to give Dave a feel of what it’s like in the alpine. We didn’t start very early and when we headed up the ridge the temps were about 35c. We dropped some gear off at our bivy site and scrambled up the ridge as high as we could. Once we got to the ramp there was a huge black cloud building up over Anderson. I thought for sure we had another lightning storm building up so once again we turned around.
August 24, 2008
I met Jim as planned at the Red Rock parking lot at 4:30 pm. We were on the trail at 5:00 and at our bivy site at 7:15 pm. We were on the trail at 5:40 am Sunday morning. We headed up the ridge to the lower ramp and cut across to the first 5.9 pitch. We climbed through the next three pitches to the top of Easter Rock. We were now on new territory and not really sure what to expect. I took the next lead. This pitch went at a 60 meter, 5.7 on horrible rock and poor to average pro. The pitch ended up in a chimney with a lot of loose rock. Jim took the next lead. This was a 50 meter, 5.7 pitch on horrible rock and poor to average pro. I was beginning to wonder if it was worth continuing however I took the next lead, a 60 meter, 5.6 on better rock but average pro. The end of this pitch got us to the upper ramp which is the base of the summit cap. The direct finish went directly above and I figured it at a 5.10b with a roof to pull through. We opted to follow the ramp around to the east for an easier finish. We found one directly above the East ridge. The finish was a 100 meter, 5.4 to the top of the buttress which is the end of the technical climbing. The rest is a scramble to the summit. We arrived at the top at 6:00 pm and were back at the parking lot at 9:00 pm that evening. A 15 ½ hour day. It felt good to finally put this baby to rest. We graded the climb a III 5.9. The rock varied from exceptionally good to exceptionally poor. The toughest parts of the climbing offered excellent pro where the easier parts of the climb had poor to average pro.

More Choice

A couple new routes are up at the second tier at Expert's Choice.  They tackle some sharp rock left of Split Cleavage.

Consider the E & F lines on this picture approximate.  I always have to go back a few times to get them exactly right.

E:  Project

5.10+?     40m

The bottom two bolts through the brown grit haven't been placed yet.  The route heads up to the prominent left facing corner (gear in the corner).  Here it cuts right to ascend the steep horizontal breaks (bolts).  The rock is sharp, the exposure huge, and some of the sequences are hard to suss out (5.10c?).  At the top a 0.5 cam or equivalent is needed to protect the ground just before the top.  The climbing is anything but technical.  The heart of the climb is juggy with huge footholds and amazing friction.

A variation to the left at about 2/3rd is possible (not bolted).  This would continue up a series of horizontal breaks on the arete's edge.  I think Blair, me and Dave worked this route about 4 or 5 years ago.

Blair trying to figure out the start to the breaks (2004)

Chris - same place. The possible variation would follow the arete near where the knot is located. The crux of the other route is about 8 feet to the right. (2004)

F:  Project

5.11-?    40m

A couple of small to mid sized nuts protect the short slabby start (5.9).  The ground quickly steepens near the first bolt before easing off until you get to the yellow headwall above.  The climbing in the horizontal breaks is steep.  I had a hard time figuring out how to bust through this section's traverse (5.11-? or 5.10d?).  There are a number of good holds to choose from, few of which lead to feasible progress.  The rock gets sharp again after the overhang (5.10).  The bolt spacing is close because of this.  Don't wear shorts.  The breaks in the yellow headwall are still a bit dusty.  A bit more comfortizing of pricklies is also needed, however this is mainly throughout the easier upper climbing.  The rightward location of the bolt at the crux is to protect the traverse.

Both routes lead to the large ledge below Split Cleavage's upper roof.  Because a number of routes now lead up here, I decided to replace the 2 pin belay with a rap bolts.  This should limit the amount of tatter that will collect.  It also accommodates a belay for future routes up and to the left.  The pins & cam placement were too far away to be suitable or safe.  Also, the reliability of the pins, while appropriate for the character of Split Cleavage, just aren't appropriate for  other traffic.  No other reliable 2 pin stations were available on the ledge, and the other lone pin placement would require 5m of cord to tie together.  And so, while the cam placement makes for a reliable lead belay, it doesn't do much for a rap station.  I have a feeling in the future this ledge will be part of a series of 30m rap stations coming down from the top.  There is another ledge below the new station that does not yet have rap anchors.  It is below and to the right of Folk Story's anchors.  Another good line leads up from here all the way to the top.

New Bolted Routes at the Choice

A few bolt protected routes at the Choice have gotten put up this week.  They are around Crispy Ambulance.

First, I have to say, repeating the roof move at the top of Crispy was as exciting as I remembered it - especially while rope soloing.  The pin shifted quite nicely in my hands after having committed to the moves (large expando block) and way too far above the last mediocre piece of gear for my own good..  I figured this is the Ambulance part of the route, as the bottom had quite nice, crisp, face/arete holds with decent protection.  A new set of bolts is now found on a ledge just below the bad pin.  This makes the crack route much more enjoyable.

To the right of Crispy Ambulance is a route that probably goes at about 5.10a. It climbs to the old bolt anchors 15 feet right of the manky pin.  This is a very nice route.  The fun, steep sequence near the top is well protected.  Start left of Crispy on some 60 grit brown sandpaper.

A  5.10b  30m

B  5.10a  30m

C  5.7      30m  Crispy Ambulance

D  5.7     2 pitches  Split Cleavage

To the left of this route, another route has been set.  A small roof, 3 bolts up, is the distinguishing feature.  The bolt spacing reminds me of late 80's early 90's routes.  A thin knife blade under the roof may be warranted to protect the cut left - hard to say though.

Two rap rings can also now be found just above the first (and rarely done) pitch of Split Cleavage.  This should keep the old slings used to rap off the horn from piling up.

A 60m rope will just get you down to the Raspberry ledge from both routes. 60m rope was also just make it down to the ground from the Local Decision station.  I am not sure about the length of the rap from the base of Crispy (the standard station used to rappel Split Cleavage).

New Route on Expert's Choice

Yellow Jacket Swing

5.7

2 pitches

excellent gear, excellent pro

The main pitch of Yellow Jacket Swing as seen from the top

This climb, recently established by Blair and Dave, is about 15m to the climbers right of Triangle Panic and 55m from the start of Crispy Ambulance. It climbs a prominent corner on the far right side of the upper tier at Expert's Choice.  The following description is from Blair.

Pitch 1)   The route starts from Raspberry Ledge and climbs the obvious left facing arete. At the top of this arete the crack continues very slightly to the right, then straight up and then slightly to the left (all very obvious). Here the crack peters out but an easy 3m traverse to the left puts you at a right angling groove to the belay station. The rock is quite good and the pro is excellent. This pitch is about 50m and probably a 5.7.

Pitch 2)   From the belay station if you look up there are three grooves. We took the left most one which angles to the left all the way to the belay station but i think any of the three grooves would work. This was a 35 to 40m pitch and went at 5.4.

The route ascends the obvious corner in the background.  Picture as seen from Raspberry Ledge

Zoom in to see the route location. The bottom is Triangle Panic (5.8+), the recommended start

Ockam's Razor

Just thought I would share a picture of one of the nicer routes at Drywood.


Photo by Blair Piggot, climbers Chris & Anne Goble

A full day of climbing at the lower tier usually involves leaving room for the head space required by the non-stop airy positions.

Ockam's (5.9) heads up some fabulous rock around a sharp arete. The best move is a long reach near the top. So far no routes continue up the overhang above. However, it looks like some lines may be possible. This route should be one of the classics of the Lower Tier, however, it is uncertain how many ascents it has had.

Lost Gear

Sounds like more than a few people have been leaving gear behind.  We found a number of pieces on Cusak's crack today.  Someone must have had a real epic.  Half the pieces had bent gate biners on the wrong end.  Can't quite figure out the story, but if they are yours, fill in the details and name the gear, and I will drop it off for you.

You can rap off Cusak's with a 60m rope.  You will just reach the two bolt station at the base of Cusak's Harebell and Mainline (28m rap).  Another half rap will get you back down to the ledge (25m)

Pass Creek Slabs

The pass creek slabs have been in use since the late 40s or 50s. At that time the boy scouts used them for rappel practice. I have also heard that climbers in the 70's and 80's used to top rope the area. At this time all the routes were led, however, not all the routes have what today would be considered adequate protection for safe lead climbs. As a result Pass creek is best considered a top rope area with one or two decent lead climbs for experienced climbers. They are a good area to go to when the park is Windy. For instance, today we were almost blown off tick ridge, while we enjoyed a calm sunny day at the slabs.

1. Right scramble 5.3

2. Layback block 5.4

3. Lost Yaks 5.5

4. Left crack 5.6

One of the challenges with the Pass Creek slabs is the thin protection for leading, low technical difficulty, and difficult to set top anchors. We found 3 pairs of anchors on top of the left most (and best) climbs. They are comprised on 2 bolts and hangers. This should make this area a decent spot for new climbers. The routes are generally easy (5.4-5.6) and the location is gorgeous. We watched a large cinnamon black bear and two cubs across the river for about a half hour.

The large ledge at the base of the routes

Chris on top of Lost Yaks 5.5

Anne over in the area of the Left Crack 5.6

Since boulders can do sit starts - why can't climbers do the equivalent. Chris climbing out of the water after checking out some more nearby areas with no route potential.

If you are going to lead any of these routes, I would recommend some micro nuts and a small knife blade or two. Left crack and Layback Block have the best gear. Watch out for the fiesty ants on Right Scramble.

To get to the slabs, drive up the Red Rock highway in Waterton, and park at the first pullout on top of the hill. Walk up the horse trail that goes by the road, and follow the power polls down to the river.

Buchannon Gardens

Brendon Goble hanging out above the technical face/slab

Normally it is hard to compare routes at different crags. Reading through Randall Green's introduction in his guide to Montana Rock reminded me of this the other day. Comparing the grades of a crack climb to a face climb is, at best hard. After all, how many 5.10 wall climbers find a series of 5.7 hand jam all but impossible. Once you move over to judging aesthetics, things get a bit more tricky. While it's easy to say whether you enjoyed a particular route at Stonehill more than another at Grassi, you can't always project this onto other people. So when Anne, an avowed slab hater, said Viking press was the best route she had done in the area, I thought, well maybe she is right. So, if you like technical routes, and pulling of match stick sized sidepulls, this route maybe for you. The 10d crux just below the last bolt may make you scream. If you're like me this may either be from how close you came to the top before falling, the fear from pulling a crux ABOVE a bolt , or the gorgeous views of the pounding waterfalls.



Viking Press - 10d or so

To get up to Buchannon Gardens, you can park at Little Prairie (the gate up Cameron Highway where the skiing starts), cross the creek on a bridge just upstream, and then walk back down the trail (left) until you see some cordoroy on the trail and a gravel bed stream on the right. Walk up here until you hit the creek, and follow a very faint trail up the ridgeline before crossing the creek under a small waterfall and some more uphill bashing to the cliffs.

New Route(s) on the Hump

Blair at the start of the new route (Lyme Street) which lies on the Tier above Dave's Lash and Thick as a Tick

The other weekend Blair, Dave, Trevor, Anne and myself took some time to explore the tier to the right of the top of Dave's lash. There are up to a half dozen potential routes on this tier.

Starting from the far left of this space
1. There is a hollowed out section of face with some horizontal breaks and a slabby exit between roofs. I have gone up to the 30 foot height twice, but to get to the real climbing you will need some pins or very small cams, or even a bolt.

2. Behind the trees there is a great scrambling route that heads up some low angled slabs with good holds and great climbing. It is 4th/5th class.

3. There is a large roof to the right of the scramble, behind a large grove of trees. The left side of the roof has what appears to be a good break, but no one managed to pass it. Blair gave it a very good shot ground up.

4. There is another break to the right of this potential line. No one made it up this line while working it on top rope.

5. Lyme Street -5.9
There is a new bolted line up the grey streak of rock. It starts off with a steep start and mantle (small cam). Finding the incut hold a foot inside will help out. Two bolts protect the crux face moves and pinches above. Once up on the ledge there is some good gear that works through the next overhang (big nut, red tri-cam, mid sized nut, and a #4 stopper). There is a bolt above and then a two bolt anchor up top. The climb is a solid 5.9 on the Hump's sandbag scale (opinions ranged from 5.8 to 5.10a).


Dave inside the first break of Lyme Street

6. The corner to the right has also been worked on top rope. Protection is dubious and the key section for gear needs some cleaning and friable rock inspected. Probably a 5.10


On another note - Thick as a Tick definitely fits in as a solid lead. Gym rats who have never fist jammed through water limestone may not find it a fun 5.8. It is a nice climb though - just a bit airy through the hard crux moves.


Thick as a Tick goes through the crack and break in the middle of the left roof

Tick Ridge

1. Right Corner
2. Orange Marmalade
3. Black Cat
6. Classic Loss


starting out under the "Orange marmalade" roof

Last August, Anne, Ronna and myself headed up to tick ridge to check out some old lines. We wandered up a short, insignificant route just to the right of Orange Marmalade. It was about 5.5 or so with adequate but certainly not exceptional gear. Looking back on my notes, the crew decided to call this one Tug Boat. I have a feeling the Wardens in the 80's probably climbed it. They had reportedly done a number of training climbs in that neck of the woods.


Putting in gear on the line right of Orange Marmalade

If you are looking to check out a new area, tick ridge has enough climbs to make a day. My suggested hit list would be - warm up on right corner, scramble over to classic loss. After classic loss (5.7), see about putting up a new line on one of the cracks that spilt off from it. If you still have any fingers left, try Engagement (just below the classic loss top anchors - 5.6). If you don't have a knifeblade to replace the broken one at mid height, try just top roping it.

Waterton Slabs

Looking up at Inland Fishery

The upper slabs on Crandell's south face have quite solid rock - a relative rarity in the park. There are two bolted routes on this face, and two rarely done corner climbs. Approach by bashing north from the start of the switchbacks on the Bear's hump trail.

A few hundred meters to the left of the slab lies another slabby arete - Scrambled Eves. This is one of the nicer long routes in the park. It is mostly a scramble with a few technical moves down low. Just make sure to stay on the top side of the arete, if not you will wind up on another climb (eyes above (5.7) )

Info Bureau

There are two new anchors on the far right side of the cliff. The chains are just below the lip of the climbs. Both climbs are short and quite easy. Nonetheless, they have a few good moves up top. If leading, bring some tri cams.

Left route (~5.7 a direct start to the roof is 5.8 or 5.9)
-Start at the far right of the roof. This is the crux. Head up the easy crack to where things steepen up at the top. There are good holds through the slighlty overhanging crack/bulge (~5.7). The top and bottom are good. The middle is lame.

Right route (~5.5)
-Start in a triangle shaped cave. The ground above is low angle. The horizontal breaks at the top are very nice. They are the main reason to do the route.

This now means you can now comfortably fit 3 parties on the info bureau. It also provides some easier ground for new climbers to practice on.

Information Bureau Rock Climbing

It has been a while since I last climbed at the info bureau. During that time the cliff has certainly increased in popularity. There is now a well trod path along its base. It looks like boulders have been busy on the 15 foot bulge to the left of the main climbs. Rod & Laura from Waterton (Zum's) have got quite a traverse circuit along the base of the cliff.

Most of the loose rock, as well as pebbles and dirt on the ledges have been removed. Perhaps it is just me, but the climbs seem to have improved a lot due to the traffic.

As a result a few updates to the guide book are perhaps warranted.

Chainman
5.8 (maybe 5.8+ ?)
There is a new anchor far to the right of the wall. It is located around the corner of the main chains and requires walking down to the large lower ledge that is to the climbers right of the cliff top. A grey chain with two bolts is at chest level. This makes top roping this route much easier.

The start of the route is now more solid. It has some decent stemming up to a bare section of rock. Here there is a fun, but rather slippery move that would go at 5.8/5.9. Thoughts on the grade? At the ring bolt it seems life staying left instead of sticking to a more direct route through the overhang is more fun and makes for a more consistent route. Doing this makes the route not quite as contrived as I remembered it being. I think I figured the bolt was useless because the one good crack on the climb is about 3 feet to its left. I guess I have mellowed. The top exit is pretty fun.

Centerfold
5.7
This route has certainly improved with traffic. The days when it was a gamble if you could hold on to the sandy ledges are now gone. The route has definitely improved. Leading it wouldn't be a bad proposition.

While Away
5.8 (maybe 5.9)
This climb head up directly through the multiple overhangs. Unfortunately it is hard to set a top rope on. Draping a sling to the left of the lone bolt is possible. You should back this up from the main chain. I am tempted to add in another station just for this climb. Thoughts? It is actually pretty good and probably the hardest route at the main cliff.

Was it Here
5.7 (definitely a 5.8 at least)
Cleaning has also improved this route. A couple of broken bits of rock have changed things so going right at the roof is now the way to go. This is pretty fun as well. I don't know if I would like to lead this though. While it certainly protects, it may be a bit pumpy to place pro. Heading left at the first roof is also another way to go. To do this, try underclinging the pocket at the base of the roof. Is 5.8 a reasonable grade for this route? In comparison to the other routes in Waterton?

Left Useless
5.5
With the extra traffic around here, I am wondering if replacing the fixed pins with a chain station is warranted. The extra traffic may turn this into a decent beginner route. Thoughts?


Right Way
5.8/5.9
This new route is to the right of Chainman. There are two single bolts at the edge of the large roof. The route at the bottom is a series of very nice steep pulls that appear to have very good pro. At 2/3 height there is a short difficult section (5.8). Climbing the roof is a bit sharp and puts you above your top rope anchors (5.9). This is another good route, despite how unappealing it may look from the ground




Also I looked at the picture on page 86 in the 3rd edition, and the climber to the left is clearly on the crux (the roof with the pocket where you can go left or right) of "Was it here" not Centerfold as labeled. Also the right hand climber is exactly between Centerfold and Chainman, not necessarily on Centerfold as labeled (although that is the route he did head up if I remember the day the picture was taken)

The Hump - Rosedale

Dave and I tried to climb Rosedale on Saturday but we figure we were off route. Does anyone have a photo or two of it? Or a clear description. Does it follow the red lichen up the slabby face? I think we trended to the left to far. Cheers Scott.


image added by chris